tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post584475601681228388..comments2023-10-28T01:37:40.656-07:00Comments on Ben Pobjie's Wonderful World Of Objects: There WAS a Year Zero!Ben Pobjiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07320337293942659210noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post-32493794266626486532010-01-07T22:46:10.610-08:002010-01-07T22:46:10.610-08:00I made the mistake of trying to work that out, and...I made the mistake of trying to work that out, and now have a blinding headache.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post-6303761298880979052010-01-03T13:12:01.847-08:002010-01-03T13:12:01.847-08:00Ah, now I see what you are saying - must have been...Ah, now I see what you are saying - must have been that one beer too many on NYE. But if you are going to call the first year "Year Zero", then we would just be entering 2009 and still not be at the end of that awful decade. Wouldn't we?<br /><br />But in effect you are arguing the same thing I am - either the first decade had 9 years, or we imagine it as having ten years by creating a year zero - same result.<br /><br />Anyway, happy new decade Ben.David Hortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15797415930927863116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post-34062094853156575782010-01-03T04:17:14.056-08:002010-01-03T04:17:14.056-08:00But David, there is not particular reason why the ...But David, there is not particular reason why the end of the first year MUST be "0001". <br /><br />This is because, as you say, nobody knew it was the first year at the time, so it wasn't actually 0001 or 0000 or anything of the sort at the time. So we just decide what the first year was - and a year zero is no less logical than there being no year zero - why shouldn't the first year be called zero?<br /><br />So when you say "The end of the "first year" (from, 0 seconds on the first day to the last second of the 365th day) is 0001," that's just an arbitrary decision on your part, you're not obeying any rule of logic or mathematics.Ben Pobjiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07320337293942659210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post-64855142199214446832010-01-01T20:17:32.468-08:002010-01-01T20:17:32.468-08:00As soon as I saw the title of this blog, I immedia...As soon as I saw the title of this blog, I immediately thought of Phillip Gibson's 30th of Dec blog "Heading out tomorrow night - watch your mouth" (The Punch)... and think it still applies.<br /><br />http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/heading-out-tomorrow-night-watch-your-mouth/<br /><br />I also noticed how many other separate blogs followed this 'debate'.<br /><br />Language is what we speak, what we feel comfortable with as Ben says and you too David, many times. But, as you say David... who gives a shit.Paolo Scimonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03622807019098478130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post-81438431768017310722010-01-01T15:22:30.056-08:002010-01-01T15:22:30.056-08:00Happy New Year, Ben, to you and ALL your family.
...Happy New Year, Ben, to you and ALL your family.<br /><br />Look, you are wrong of course. The end of the "first year" (from, 0 seconds on the first day to the last second of the 365th day) is 0001, second year 0002, so the end of the "first decade" is 0010. But even if you weren't, the idea that we need to determine our nomenclature of decades in 2010 by some imaginary scenario about what happened in the "first decade" is nonsense. We can, and in practice do, decide that the "first decade" was only 9 years long, and from then on, decades are determined by the first year in their number.<br /><br />In any case, the relevance of the "first decade" is zero - nobody knew it was the first decade (or the second, third, fourth and so on) at the time, so whatever it theoretically is means nothing. Except to pedants. Which you and I aren't.<br /><br />Oh, and welcome aboard the good ship Unleashed. Now if I could only get a gig on NM ...David Hortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15797415930927863116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-281415506871751523.post-69620763480436400472010-01-01T15:12:15.180-08:002010-01-01T15:12:15.180-08:00*high five*
Agreed. There was a year zero.*high five*<br /><br />Agreed. There was a year zero.Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00043575089592404945noreply@blogger.com